WEBVTT X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=LOCAL:00:00:00.000,MPEGTS:0 00:00:06.650 --> 00:00:10.320 So what is the difference between InDesign and say, 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:12.720 Quark, Photoshop, Illustrator, Pagemaker, 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.960 Framemaker, these all other programs out there, 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.810 and let's quickly talk about where they all sit. 00:00:18.810 --> 00:00:22.335 So intensive InDesign, it has some direct competitors. 00:00:22.335 --> 00:00:24.390 One would be Microsoft Word, 00:00:24.390 --> 00:00:26.650 which is the more of an amateur program. 00:00:26.650 --> 00:00:28.950 You're not going to get a design job with it, 00:00:28.950 --> 00:00:30.930 and it has quite a lot of limitations. 00:00:30.930 --> 00:00:32.310 You can do some nice stuff on word, 00:00:32.310 --> 00:00:36.705 but really that's the entry level program and then you move into InDesign. 00:00:36.705 --> 00:00:38.925 Now, other competitors to InDesign, 00:00:38.925 --> 00:00:42.105 the main one would be QuarkXpress. 00:00:42.105 --> 00:00:46.130 Now, when I was doing my degree as a graphic designer, 00:00:46.130 --> 00:00:47.935 I [inaudible] on Quark. 00:00:47.935 --> 00:00:52.700 Now, as soon as I left my degree to get my first job, 00:00:52.700 --> 00:00:57.380 InDesign got launched and all of those tools. 00:00:57.380 --> 00:01:00.050 I started actually teaching Quark way back when, 00:01:00.050 --> 00:01:04.740 and it slowly but surely died a death. 00:01:04.740 --> 00:01:06.740 I'm sure the people at Quark right now 00:01:06.740 --> 00:01:10.580 are still making versions and there are people still using it, 00:01:10.580 --> 00:01:11.630 but it's a very, 00:01:11.630 --> 00:01:13.970 very small percentage of work, 00:01:13.970 --> 00:01:19.010 and pretty much any new work is all done in InDesign. 00:01:19.010 --> 00:01:22.370 Some legacy files you stumble across occasionally had done in Quark, 00:01:22.370 --> 00:01:25.560 but we don't use Quark very much anymore or I don't use it at all. 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:29.035 I haven't used it for probably about 10 years, it's a long time indeed. 00:01:29.035 --> 00:01:31.920 Now Pagemaker was it's made by Adobe as well, 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:34.385 and you probably never going to touch it, 00:01:34.385 --> 00:01:37.280 it's for really big things. 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:42.095 Say I need to put together a scientific document 00:01:42.095 --> 00:01:48.110 about some medical treatment medicine that we're making, 00:01:48.110 --> 00:01:51.320 I might open up Pagemaker because it allows 00:01:51.320 --> 00:01:54.860 many people to work on one document and update it and track it. 00:01:54.860 --> 00:01:57.320 If I was going to build a nuclear reactor, 00:01:57.320 --> 00:02:02.270 I'd probably document how it's made and how it's being maintained via Pagemaker. 00:02:02.270 --> 00:02:04.085 It's a big old program. 00:02:04.085 --> 00:02:07.295 So not a lot of people using that one. 00:02:07.295 --> 00:02:09.730 Definitely not for like creative design, 00:02:09.730 --> 00:02:11.300 it's all about InDesign. 00:02:11.300 --> 00:02:14.270 Now, the other products that might go in hand in hand, 00:02:14.270 --> 00:02:17.510 with InDesign is the Photoshop and Illustrator. 00:02:17.510 --> 00:02:19.790 Generally, designers will know Photoshop, 00:02:19.790 --> 00:02:21.755 Illustrator and InDesign altogether. 00:02:21.755 --> 00:02:23.150 Now where they separate out, 00:02:23.150 --> 00:02:24.890 Photoshop Is a nice clear difference, 00:02:24.890 --> 00:02:27.355 InDesign is a layout program, 00:02:27.355 --> 00:02:32.330 you bring in images, bring in text and you combine them in amazing designs. 00:02:32.330 --> 00:02:35.450 Photoshop, you open up photographs and you manipulate them, 00:02:35.450 --> 00:02:37.160 make them better, change them, 00:02:37.160 --> 00:02:39.490 miss with them, fix them up. 00:02:39.490 --> 00:02:40.730 When you're finished with them, 00:02:40.730 --> 00:02:42.430 you bring it into something like InDesign. 00:02:42.430 --> 00:02:44.420 If I was making a flyer, 00:02:44.420 --> 00:02:46.950 it's a one-page flyer and I start making it in Photoshop, 00:02:46.950 --> 00:02:51.635 I could probably get away with it and it would be fine and I could make it work, 00:02:51.635 --> 00:02:54.335 but that would be using Photoshop, 00:02:54.335 --> 00:02:55.870 what it's not meant to be used for. 00:02:55.870 --> 00:02:57.515 You can do basic stuff like that, 00:02:57.515 --> 00:02:59.420 but as soon as you have to have multiple pages, 00:02:59.420 --> 00:03:00.935 Photoshop just falls over. 00:03:00.935 --> 00:03:02.360 Can't do multiple pages, 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.600 you can have master pages or [inaudible] 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:09.155 and it doesn't deal with type very well because it's mainly a photo editing program. 00:03:09.155 --> 00:03:11.390 So that's where Photoshop gets used. 00:03:11.390 --> 00:03:14.930 Illustrator is the one that is reasonably close to InDesign, 00:03:14.930 --> 00:03:16.505 it can do a lot of the same things. 00:03:16.505 --> 00:03:19.550 Illustrator is mainly for people illustrating. 00:03:19.550 --> 00:03:25.640 But what I use it for mainly in that design field is more logo work and making icons. 00:03:25.640 --> 00:03:29.110 It;s really get all the tools structure is around doing those things. 00:03:29.110 --> 00:03:31.510 But if I had to do a one-page flyer, 00:03:31.510 --> 00:03:34.290 it would look great in Illustrator or InDesign. 00:03:34.290 --> 00:03:36.005 It wouldn't really matter to me. 00:03:36.005 --> 00:03:40.065 I'd have both programs open whichever of the one is open. 00:03:40.065 --> 00:03:42.470 I'm good at both of them, so it doesn't really matter. 00:03:42.470 --> 00:03:46.310 Where InDesign gets used if I have to start doing things, 00:03:46.310 --> 00:03:48.870 say it's going to be a monthly newsletter or flyer, 00:03:48.870 --> 00:03:53.280 then there's some tools in InDesign that may help that flow for doing monthly stuff. 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.715 The other thing for InDesign is multiple pages. 00:03:55.715 --> 00:03:56.840 Illustrator can do it, 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.150 you can have what's called up boards. 00:03:59.150 --> 00:04:05.519 But if you've got to really image heavy documents and you start getting past three, 00:04:05.519 --> 00:04:07.170 four or five pages, 00:04:07.170 --> 00:04:09.825 you'll find illustrator starts grinding to a halt. 00:04:09.825 --> 00:04:15.710 Get 10 or 20 pages of images and text and it's quite hard to use. 00:04:15.710 --> 00:04:17.150 It starts struggling as a program. 00:04:17.150 --> 00:04:21.590 Whereas InDesign, you can have a 400 page document and fly through it and start working. 00:04:21.590 --> 00:04:24.455 It's engineered to deal with those lots of pages. 00:04:24.455 --> 00:04:25.880 Same thing with InDesign. 00:04:25.880 --> 00:04:27.460 You can do some basic illustrator stuff. 00:04:27.460 --> 00:04:29.990 There's a pin tool and you can build shapes and you 00:04:29.990 --> 00:04:32.720 can make icons and import them, so you can do that and then design. 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.970 There's a bit of a crossover between those two. 00:04:34.970 --> 00:04:36.565 But if you're going to separate them out. 00:04:36.565 --> 00:04:39.360 Illustrator's for doing things like branding and 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.620 logos and illustrations and InDesign is all about desktop publishing. 00:04:43.620 --> 00:04:46.910 Now, I hope that helps with some of the software and 00:04:46.910 --> 00:04:50.570 which ones you should be learning if you're completely new to this, 00:04:50.570 --> 00:04:53.660 you can start with InDesign and probably the next step would be Photoshop. 00:04:53.660 --> 00:04:57.410 Unless you want to start making your own infographics and those things, 00:04:57.410 --> 00:04:58.790 then you look at Illustrator. 00:04:58.790 --> 00:05:00.020 I've got courses on all of those. 00:05:00.020 --> 00:05:01.220 So if you are keen, 00:05:01.220 --> 00:05:03.545 go check out those ones as well. 00:05:03.545 --> 00:05:10.260 That'll be it for the what and where does InDesign sit and the world of design.