Chapter 32 2
Scout Classic on TIA Scout comperation pros and cons 3
Let's talk about and which way 4
should we Choose before we begin to develop our project 5
I have written 6
Something in my mind 7
about scout classic Today 8
we still use instead of TIA scout 9
it is a stable environment 10
Of course that are some bugs sometimes it's Crush depends on your system PC 11
Ram size or Windows 12
version 13
it is Sustainable and reasonable when you compared with TIA scout 14
each year Almost siemens release new version of TIA scout 15
still development So 16
test environment with Different kind of products of firmwares already done 17
That means there are a lot of questions and FAQs 18
information already it you can just find easily when you have 19
The problem or faced with a strange situation so 20
This an advantage for classical world 21
it is Possible to convert TIA scout sometime later on 22
Yep 23
If you begin to program your CPU classic scout simatic manager 24
simotion Scouts at wincc flexible 25
After that is possible to convert to TIA from classical world ofcourse 26
winccflexible integration 27
Is only possible 28
When you are working with Old panels 29
nowadays MP or TP series old panels as 30
Selling as a spare parts so that's why the costs are really high 31
nowadays on the other hand we use new comfort and basic panels and 32
These are just programmable with TIA portal 13 or newer 33
That's a con for 34
Disadvantage in classical world 35
project generator works with classical 36
So scripts are working properly on Classical side 37
sinamics side Wizards and configuration is so much better and faster here 38
because we already used to 39
Work with this environments I can remember the settings and menus and wizards 40
So I can work faster when I switch back to TIA world 41
and There's a software package sinamics basic and startdrive advanced in New version 42
TIA portal for 15 and 16 43
So it's possible to configure your sinamics s120 side on your 44
TIA portal IDE 45
But there are some but still there are somethings are missing and the Wizards are terrible right now so 46
That's why I prefer the use classical way 47
When programmers should use TIA scout? 48
What is the most 49
Program PLC and HMI together with comfort new series panels maybe you should 50
continiue with this way 51
classical TIA scout 52
By the way if your programming several of CPUs and there's a communication between 53
Simotion at step71500 is always to use 54
with profinet IO device controllers communication 55
Then 56
Maybe you should select you TIA scout 57
Because it's easy to do that 58
Otherwise you have to export 59
Your 60
Simotion configuration IO device 61
as GSDML file and you have to import on the other side 62
and 63
If you made some changes later on you have to manually update for the TIA 64
Export and import again. Take some time 65
This 66
Integrated programming is a plus 67
For TIA Scout 68
Easy to select HMI text from list 69
You can design Faster your HMI screens and you can work 70
Simultaneously with simotion CPU 71
Normally 72
It programmer should 73
Make the both of the PLC side and HMI side so that's why you can select 74
TIA scout 75
as a minus 76
You switch TIA or HMI side some modifications can cause 77
hardware change 78
That means you have to download your simotion side again 79
and CPU goes to stop state 80
So you lose much time specially on low-level CPUs 81
D410 or D425 82
This is some kind of a BUG with TIA Scouts 83
basically you're just opening your project when you double-click 84
Similar version of the classical scout is opening on new window 85
That are some functions still missing 86
Scripts are not working properly yet unfortunately 87
That's the cons of TIA Scout 88
Also the TIA portal 89
Requires more RAM 90
and more CPU resources 91
That's why I'm working is slowly 92
When you compared to classical siemens 93
Programs and 94
Like manager and wincc flexible 95
That's another cons for The TIA Scout 96
Because on the field working sometimes is really successful you have to manage your time 97
Properly and wisely 98
and... 99
I'm sorry about the TIA portal doesn't help you at this case 100
You have to use 101
SSD hard drives with very powerful configuration 102
Laptop 103
you need than 104
utilization of TIA is too high 105
So you're just click and wait a couple of minutes sometimes during compilation 106
Online Diagnostic and data transfer a little bit slower 107
Running compared to classical scout 108
And 109
it Is a minus 110
So next thing is 111
About sinamics drive site option released for 112
it is possible configure your drive cliq objects projects on your Hardware 113
Device and networks on TIA but there are some bugs also 114
Like Safety integrated functional sometimes with 115
Different firmware versions if it's not working properly 116
You just here see the TIA Scout 117
there are some menus shortened 118
For some reason 119
It's your choice but if it's possible I think 120
i should select and 121
I prefer to continue with classical world 122
at the end that is my opinion 123
Advanced it's up to you 124
it is short chapter just for your information 125
I think it's a good way to transfer some knowledge or experience from 126
One collegue to another college so... See you next time.